Malone Returns to Rogan
Malone Returns to Rogan: Five Years Later, the Truth Walks In Like It Owns the Place
By Paul Grant Truesdell - The Elder
A Review of The Joe Rogan Experience — Episode with Dr. Robert Malone, February 2025
Well, well, well. Dr. Robert Malone sat down with Joe Rogan again, and wouldn't you know it, the man who was labeled a kook, a quack, and an anti-vaxxer — by the very people who couldn't spell mRNA without a cheat sheet — turns out to have been right about just about everything. Five years. That's how long it took for polite society to catch up with what Malone was saying on New Year's Eve 2021. Some of us didn't need five years. Some of us knew it the first time around and got shown the door for saying so.
I'm one of those people. I stood my ground when the Covid hysteria machine was running at full tilt. I was deplatformed. I was told to leave groups — groups full of otherwise intelligent adults who had apparently decided that questioning a pharmaceutical company's press release was the moral equivalent of arson. I watched people I'd known for decades lose their ever-loving minds over a virus with a 99-plus percent survival rate for most of the population, and God forbid you mentioned ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or natural immunity. You might as well have walked into a PTA meeting and announced you worship Satan.
So when Malone sits across from Rogan and lays out what happened — the propaganda, the censorship, the coordinated takedown operations run through organizations most Americans have never heard of — I'm not surprised. I'm validated. And frankly, I'm still a little ticked off. Malone described how Coca-Cola, of all companies, complained to the Global Alliance for Responsible Media to pressure Spotify after that first interview. Coca-Cola. The sugar water company that funds buildings at the CDC so the CDC won't tell the World Health Organization to crack down on sugar consumption. You cannot make this stuff up. If you wrote it in a novel, your editor would send it back and say, "Too implausible. Dial it down."
The mass formation psychosis discussion came back around, and it's aged like fine bourbon. Malone explained the concept again — how socially isolated people become vulnerable to manipulation by authority figures offering solutions to their psychological pain — and it still perfectly describes what happened to half the country during Covid. The term broke the internet in 2021, and every single person who heard it knew exactly what it meant. But it was forbidden. Not because it was wrong. Because it was accurate. That's the part that should keep you up at night. They didn't censor Malone because he was a quack. They censored him because he was right, and a right answer that contradicts the official narrative is the most dangerous thing in the world to people who depend on that narrative for power and profit.
Malone now serves as vice chair of the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, which is a sentence I would have bet my farm you'd never read two years ago. He's also supporting the State Department on bioweapons convention compliance. The man they tried to destroy is now advising the government on vaccine policy and biological threats. Meanwhile, the people who called him a conspiracy theorist are still writing angry op-eds for publications nobody reads anymore. The irony is so thick you could spread it on toast.
The conversation ventured into territory that would have gotten you banned from every platform on earth three years ago — gain-of-function research, lab leaks in Spain involving African swine fever, the weaponization of nudge technology against American citizens, the Epstein files, and the uncomfortable reality that the greatest upward transfer of wealth in modern history happened under the cover of a public health emergency. Rogan and Malone talked about it all, and not a single word of it sounded crazy. It sounded like Tuesday.
What struck me most was Malone's point about the subscriber-based model that set him free. No debt. No corporate masters. No board of directors telling him what he can and cannot say. That's the same independence that makes Rogan untouchable and the same independence I've built my own practice around. Fixed-cost, fiduciary-based, no commissions, no conflicts. When nobody owns you, you can tell the truth. When everybody owns you, you tell whatever keeps the checks coming. That's not cynicism. That's arithmetic. And it is the single most important lesson of the last five years: independence is the only real currency left. Everything else can be revoked, suspended, or memory-holed by a Jira ticket at some government office you've never heard of.
Malone ended on a hopeful note, and I'll do the same. Yes, the darkness is real. Yes, the manipulation is ongoing. Yes, there are people in positions of extraordinary power who view the rest of us as inputs in their spreadsheet. But the light is coming in. We can see the machinery now. We can see who pulled the levers and why. And for the first time in a long time, the people who told the truth are sitting at the table instead of being thrown under it. That's not nothing. That's morning in America, and it's about damn time.
Tippecanoe and Tyler Too, I'm out of here.
